Seriously Spiritual

EP 8: Trigger Warning - Existential Crisis

December 27, 2021 Season 1 Episode 8
Seriously Spiritual
EP 8: Trigger Warning - Existential Crisis
Show Notes Transcript

Today's topics:

  • What it's been like "ascending to 5D"
  • Giving your power away to spiritual guides, aliens, and more
  • Why spirituality is really about reclaiming your sovereignty

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Sophie Bauer:

Hi, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Seriously Spiritual podcast. This is your host Sophie and I'm joined by my lovely, lovely friend Kat, how are you doing? So today. Well, I just want to start out by prefacing that this is I just want to put a trigger warning out there. We're going to be getting into some really deep and activating topics and conversations around the idea of existential crises. And basically the fact that nothing matters that spirituality isn't real, and all of the things so if you're not in a place to absorb and experience that right now, I would recommend that you just make a different choice for yourself right now and come back later if you're ready or not at all. And it's all good.

Kat Guthrie:

I like it, Sophie, very honest, very true. Yeah, spirituality isn't real everybody. Yaaaaaaay.

Sophie Bauer:

It isn't real. And like, that's also the joke about the title of our podcast. If you haven't already caught on, it's extremely sarcastic, but also serious. Like, it's just, you know, the duality of it all. So, but today, we really want to dive into the aspect and the idea that it isn't real.

Kat Guthrie:

Yep. And, you know, I think that we've both been on a spiritual journey for such a long time. And I mean, well, you know, relatively speaking, seven years is a long time for some people, not a long time for others. But, um, it is, what am I trying to say? Every step along my spiritual journey has not really ever been about discovering the secrets of the universe, I generally think that the secrets of the universe are for the most part unknowable. Or there are things that we can learn, but we have to be at a certain vibrational quality to be able to receive them. But what it has really been about all of the change, all of the positive change I have ever seen from a spiritual practice, has been in the form of a really fine tuning my sovereignty. Because in all of my spiritual experiences, it is it has highlighted for me very clearly, that human beings are often not the, the things in charge of our bodies and our lives and our planet. And, and that's really, really challenging to admit to the honesty of, or to admit to the difficulty of and this is not meant to put any of you in fear. It's really not. It's about understanding that we all give our power away to people to things to places to governments, and all I think a really wonderful healing spiritual practice is, is about taking your power back. From all of the places that you've, you've left it. Sophie, how do you think?

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, I think that absolutely is pretty much the context and the direction that we want to take this conversation in that. We, I'm just absorbing all of this and activating it within me feels. It's a lot. But basically, we just want to highlight the fact that every single aspect of our realities in our lives have been at one point controlled by an external force. And for many of us, they still are, and the purpose of spirituality, for me, which, by the way, I think is a redundant word because I think we are innately all spiritual. Whether you are an atheist or you believe in mythical creatures or you are a Catholic, it doesn't matter. I think we are all innately spiritual. So to say that you are spiritual, I think is redundant. But I digress. So. The purpose of today is to remind us that in order to get what we want, and to have a life or reality, that is of desire to us, we have to go through a process of reclaiming our sovereignty. And sovereignty really is just the act of you being in control of your choices, your outcome in life, your external reality, your internal reality. It is, it is becoming resourced and sourced from within, rather than outside of you. So, with that being said, umm hmm. Where do we want to take this? Are you feeling, are you feeling drawn in a particular direction with this right now?

Kat Guthrie:

I think context is important here, like how we ended up in this place. And why why we want to talk about this today, of all days. And that is, you know, in the, in the New Age realm, there's all this talk of ascension. Right. And we both have kind of been in the New Age realm for a couple of years. And so part of part of you know, being in that space is all of this ascension, ascension, ascension stuff. And like, what we found is that we've pursued the act basically of continuing to raise our frequency. And whether ascension kind of happens or not, we've never really been sure. But it seems as though we have arrived consciously on the same day to a new vibrational reality. And, you know, the way that it seems like we're, we, the best confirmation we have, you know, is Sophie's able to see a lot of things differently using her clairvoyance. And we've gone through some of these massive spiritual changes just in the last couple of days, in terms of like cleaning up, kind of getting rid of all of the last remnants of things we need to let go of from the previous reality. And so I guess you could say we're in 5-D, but guess what, it sucks up here! Just kidding, it sucks right now, but I don't think it's going to moving forward. But it does mean that we're, we're being asked to clean out a whole bunch of stuff. So.

Sophie Bauer:

Well, and it comes back to, it's just a new level of vibrational intensity right. So, because we have consistently pursued the act of doing quote unquote, the work to raise our vibration, which for us, it the majority of that has looked like doing our emotional healings or energetic clearings, all of the things to clear out the density in our vessel, and because we have consistently pursued that, and now we have reached a less dense reality, however, it is more intense and we are being asked more of to remain here essentially, and to continue to raise our frequency. And what that means is that there are even more layers and things to heal and to look at and to be confronted with, to remember and to reconcile with. And, ah, with that, there are so many things I can share, I have to decide where I want to take this.

Kat Guthrie:

But that was really well said Sophie, that was like a much better way of saying what I said like yours was a less depressing way of saying it. So thank you for that. If y'all can't tell I'm more than a little grumpy about all of this. So, Sophie is holding down the fort in terms of faith and trust and love and I'm over here like the grumpy old woman that we all know I am.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, but we need both. We live in a both-and reality we live in a reality of contrast and we need both and I actually love and appreciate you so much for being in that right now. Because I physically cannot reach a point of like anger and rage yet like I'm just really sitting in this space and hope and love so it's it's actually incredibly helpful and healing for me to witness you in that and to be in partnership with you in that. So oh yeah It's it's all. It's all good and helpful. And I guess something. So I want to share why, why for me, I am perceiving that I'm in this new vibrational reality because I imagine there are some questions as to like how do you know when you reach a new vibrational reality? What the fuck does that mean?

Kat Guthrie:

Good question, good question.

Sophie Bauer:

Basically what is what is happening is things look different to me, there is a different vibrational frequency in the way that I perceive auras and just energetic, that's the best way I can put it, but energetic frequency of all of the things around me. So the curtains hanging over my doors, the leaves on the trees, the sheets on my bed, everything, because I can see is vibrating at a different frequency. It's, it's not necessarily better or worse, it's just different. And the way that this is manifesting in my body and in my mood is when Kat and I first arrived to this new frequency, we were frickin ecstatic, like, so much of our density melted away. We just achieved this really the state of bliss and groundedness in that bliss that I've never experienced before, really. And I feel like because for me, at least in my personal experience, for me, I became I have become a lot more grounded and anchored in my body. And Kat has, well, previously, right now we're literally an existential crisis. So we're just experiencing a lot of emotion. But previously, a few days ago, you know, she was really achieving a lot of the energy that I had carried so well for a long time of just this playfulness. And this this dream just dreaminess and effervescence and joy and just light heartedness.

Kat Guthrie:

I almost forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me.

Sophie Bauer:

Absolutely. So it's like you know, we went through these very intense physical changes. And also I realized that my need to depend on external forces to make myself feel better or achieve a certain state of being has literally been just shedding layers and falling away. So as human beings, we change our state through addictions to food, alcohol, drugs, media, people, information, whatever it is, we give our power away to external forces in order to change our internal state. And now that I'm here in this weird new vibration, I don't need that anymore. And in fact, it repulses me. So, like, for the last few days, I've just been, as I'm adjusting, I've been feeling really nauseous and I just don't want to eat I don't want to my body doesn't want food really right now. Like I still eat but you know, just it's not the same.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, I'm super nauseous too but does that stop me from eating? No, it does not.

Sophie Bauer:

Oh, my goodness.

Kat Guthrie:

It should.

Sophie Bauer:

Well no, you should eat, our bodies are meant, our bodies are meant to be fueled.

Kat Guthrie:

They are meant to be fueled. But, you know, nausea should probably stop you. But my reaction is to eat more. Maybe then the more food will make the nausea stop. It does not work.

Sophie Bauer:

But that's okay, too. I again, we're adjusting. There's no right or wrong way to adjust into this. Like we're just trying to figure it out.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, that's true.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. And like the same. It's not just food, you know, it's like, I have no interest in being in consuming media or just like, other things that I use to like, make myself self feel better with you know? So, anyway, long, long speech to sum up. We are shifting, we have shifted, and we are trying to figure out what this means. And it all comes down to sovereignty and continuing to claim and reclaim and remember and resource ourselves in sovereignty, in ways that we would never have in this lifetime before.

Kat Guthrie:

Yep. Very, very true. You know, the process of becoming sovereign, you know, you kind of you go through this journey and you, as you heal more and more and more, you start to figure out all of the ways in which you give away your power, you know, like, we give our power away, god, sorry, Dad, we give our power away to the government, like my dad was worked for the government for a long time. So sorry, but we give our power away to the government, we give our power away to our lovers and our friends and family and children. We give our sovereignty away to our spiritual guides, expecting them to have the answers more than we do. We give our sovereignty away to aliens, unknowingly a lot of the time, but a lot of them have, so many of them have had dominion, let's say over both of our bodies on an energetic level, it is incredibly overwhelming. And it's basically it kind of every time it happens, it kind of leads us back to like, Oh, it's this awakening of I'm taking my power back. But like, what it means is that every aspect of your life can and will be controlled, if you're not doing the one doing the controlling of it. Meaning, if you're not moving everything that is subconscious into your conscious into your conscious mind, then something else is controlling it. Your subconscious mind, who knows what the hell is going on back there? You know, what kinds of agreements, it's signed up for. What kinds of contracts it has agreed to, you don't know, if it is not fully conscious then something else is doing the controlling of you. And again, like, we're not saying this to create fear, we're really not. Because all of the times and all of the ways that we've experienced this, by the time these things come off, it's like, oh, okay, I didn't know that was happening. Yes, you know. And every time it happens, it's something that happens, because we were trying to grow and to learn in some really important way. So like, you know, my clairvoyance, right, my clairvoyance has been blocked off or pretty much my or long time more intensely over the last seven years. And, and I did it on on a subconscious level on purpose, because I was afraid because I didn't want to have access to it before it was ready. And, and so did I have a lot of aliens controlling it? And layers upon layers upon layers? Yes, at least that's what my subconscious mind is telling me or that's what my intuition has told me. But, you know, am I gonna sit there and be like, Those fucking aliens, they're, they ruined my whole life. No, I'm not. Because I am responsible for every single thing that is in my energetic field, I am on some level, responsible for whatever is controlling me on the outside. So you know, I think that like, it's, it's useless to be in fear about this kind of thing. Because it only attracts in more of the thing that you don't want. If you're going to be in fear, you're going to be surrounded by fear. If you're terrified of your psychic abilities, you're going to close off your psychic abilities, like you're going to do all of these things, because that is what you want. If you're in fear, you want to be in fear on some level. So it's, it doesn't really help to, to worry about any of this, honestly, like, and that's vaguely nihilistic, but, you know, all it is, is the process of figuring out what is you and what is everything else. And on the same level, you are everything that is and everything that is you are contained within that. So you're just experiencing yourself in 1,000,001 different ways. So that being the case, what is it that you're creating in your world? And why are you creating it? And how can you change the things that you are creating subconsciously into the things that you want to create consciously?

Sophie Bauer:

Right, absolutely. And I feel like the whole point of this, like the whole point of this, like, intellectual and spiritual and emotional torture of like going through an existential crisis like this, is the fact that when you bring the subconscious to the conscious, you are more easily able to tune into the experience that you desire. And I intentionally chose the word or the phrase "tune in to" versus create, because every possible reality already exists. It already exists. And all our job is, is to vibrationally tune in to that reality to whichever one we desire. And if you if the reality you have right now is undesirable, then that is your chance to take your sovereignty back, to stop playing the victim, to stop giving your power away in some way, and switch your frequency, switch your actions so that you can start to tune into that new vibrational reality and that new timeline. And that's really like the whole point of why Kat and I are pursuing this concept right now is because we desire changes in our reality, we desire things, of course, we're human beings. We want, we want things. Um, so yeah. I guess that's that's the point.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, absolutely. Well, we want, we want stuff, and not just stuff. We want, like real meaningful changes. Yeah. And I think like, that's, you know, the, the, for me, that's the whole point, right, like, you know, I think we all struggle to find meaning in our lives to find meaning in the little small, horrible, stupid things you have to do every single day where you're like, is this really worth it? Is, is, is being in a human body really worth it when I have to vacuum like five times a week? Like, is this an even trade? I'm not sure that it is, you know. But like, just, you know, the idea that like, you are... that life needs to have meaning, at least I think it does, you know. I, I my life without meaning is just a sad, sad wasteland. And it was for so many years, I went through so many cycles of depression, where I would, I just didn't understand what the point of my life was, you know, and I started to pursue spirituality, because I needed to believe that there was something bigger and better out there. I really, because if I was it, if the human version of me was everything that there is, fuck I was, there was no point in staying around here, you know. And, like, of being on the spiritual journey, there are so many amazing things that you can find out, like, you have a higher self, you have an oversoul, or whatever the fuck those terms mean, you have higher versions of you. And you can talk to them you that you can get information from them. This is all your intuition is, is just you talking to the higher versions of you being like, Yo, what's up, you know, like, and I, I needed to find that meaning in my life. But along the way, I also found out all the places where I had given my power away and giving your power away is the essence of like, giving your meaning away, you know, what is the point in living the life where you're not the one creating it? I mean, there is a point, you're gonna learn a lot of interesting lessons. But I don't want to live that kind of life anymore. You know, I don't want to give my power away anymore. And it took me a long time to get to the place where I didn't want to give my power away. So, you know, we're just like, We're all just trying to do our best. We really, everyone is just trying to do our best and like it takes, yeah, it takes a lot of courage. It really takes a lot of courage to be able to do that. And it's not always easy. It's not always easy to have that kind of courage. And to stand up for yourself as a sovereign human being meaning separate from separate from anyone else in your life, any other influence in your life. But I think the thing that's on the other side of that is the ability to actually have the things that you really want, I think, I hope.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, yeah. Well and what's coming through for me now is that it's about this process really is about removing all senses and aspects of hierarchy. In that we are all the same. We are all equal. We are all one and anytime that we are falling into the matrix of hierarchy, we are giving our power away. And the more and more that we can appreciate the fact that we are all the same, there is more energy available to be resourced from within yourself to tune into and make things and do things, and heal things and achieve things, whatever it is that you are desiring to do. And this also, like you said, it takes massive amounts of courage to get to this point of questioning it all. And deciding to make the choice that you will no longer give your power away to any source outside of you. Because that implies that you will no longer be taken care of by anybody else except for yourself. And that is a level of self love and embodiment that, I think is one of the most powerful and empowering things that we could do for ourselves in a human experience. That's just yeah, that's just, that's just the simple fact. And because, well, for many reasons, I mean, when we are that resourced within ourselves, not only do we have more energy available, to be able to do and create and experience the things that we desire, but we then open up the opportunity for everything externally to be a bonus. We are no longer dependent on the external things to change our state, to take care of us, to influence us, to help us because we already have it all within, and then we get to be more selective about the external things. And all of reality shifts from there. Does that make sense? Is that clear?

Kat Guthrie:

I think it is, yeah, yeah. It just when, when there is more of you, in your body to make the choices that you want to be making you have the more power to do it with, you know, there's just more of you here.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Kat Guthrie:

I don't know.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, well, and the concept of manipulation is coming up for me, in that we live on a planet where manipulation is one of the most prevalent ways of interpersonal interaction. And it is done through both fear and demonizing and glamourizing different ways of living in existence. And basically, the reason that I want to share this and provide this kind of clarity is because when you can bring the awareness and the consciousness around where you are being pushed into fear, to do certain things, or pushed by a glamorized reality to do certain things, you are giving your power away. Nobody has the liberty to take your power away in that way unless you allow them. That is an exchange of energy that is one of the most self deprecating things I think we can do. And unfortunately, we do it all the goddamn time.

Kat Guthrie:

All the goddamn time. Always.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. So.

Kat Guthrie:

But it's also you know, it's part of what we're trained to do, what we're told we need to do, part of what we do so that we can be taken care of, so that we can be loved when we're little, you know, like I you know, one of the things that happened for me and coming up to this new level was that I was forced to take a look at all of my spiritual guides. They're not real. Including the one who was supposed to be my father. And relying, it's not that the that those those entities that were masquerading or said they were my spiritual guides, really, that I decided were my spiritual guides, nobody else. Those entities, those ones didn't have bad intentions for being with me. But I still put that power outside of myself. I still asked for answers outside of myself, instead of seeing them for what they were, which is that half of them were thought forms that belonged to me, they were literally my power coming back to me that I wasn't ready to take in. Yeah. So, but you know, when we, at this new level of awareness, or whatever the fuck this place is, we are being asked to call all of our power back to us, not only because we're gonna need it being up here, but because it was always ours to begin with, you know, and we gave it away, because, you know, I had a, I had a thought, or I had an alien masquerading as my father as one of my spiritual guides, because I needed to believe that, that he was still with me, I needed to believe that someone was out there, in spiritual form, or whatever, who was really taking care of me. And, you know, the, I say this with love, the only thing that is truly ever looking out for you, 100% of the time, is you, it's all of you, and the higher dimensional versions of you, because everybody has their own needs, and wants and desires. And it doesn't mean that your parents don't love you. It, it really doesn't, it means that they have their own stuff. They have their own traumas, their own challenges, their own pains. And so they're loving you the best way they possibly can from within the context of their own challenges and their own lack of power, their own giving away of their power. So on the one hand, there's no one out there looking out for you. On the other hand, the most important person in the world is looking out for you. And it's always you, always.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I think it's important to just mention also that everybody, I mean, you were you were talking about this, but just to highlight that everybody has their own agenda. And if you want to be center spotlight, having your agenda met at all times, then the journey of reclaiming your sovereignty is is the path. Or at least this is the path we are understanding now. And I just feel like...

Kat Guthrie:

Well and that's okay, right? Like I just, I just want to highlight, it's okay, for everybody to have their own agenda.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, absolutely. We're all here. We're all here to experience our own thing and do our own thing and do whatever we want. Like, that's so liberating. And it's also like, it's liberating and isolating. Because it's like, okay, everybody has their own personal agenda, to do whatever they want to do. That's amazing. I also have that. And that's why I think it's this beautiful opportunity to be as fully resourced from within as possible, so that everything outside of us becomes that added bonus, you know, it's like, it's like the rainbow. It's like the sprinkles on top. Everything else gets to be a bonus when we get to be more selective. I know, I already said that. But it just feels really important to highlight. And, you know, I feel like the whole purpose, at least for me, right now, in this moment, the whole purpose of existence and being in this human body is to create meaning in my life. And the way that I am choosing to create meaning is through enjoying my life as much as I possibly can. And that is through play, and love, and joy and adventure and just seeing how far I can take this life. How crazy can I get how amazing how ecstatic can I get? Because the opposite end just sounds fucking depressing. So if I have a choice, I'm gonna do it the fun way this is fun to me in this you know this, I want to do it the fun way. So I guess that the for me right now that's the silver lining in all of this existential crisis because believe me, I've spent a lot of time just staring at a wall for the last 24 hours, just trying to figure out what the fuck. Um...

Kat Guthrie:

Same.

Sophie Bauer:

That's the silver lining, is it's like Okay, I will never know any of the fucking answers. There's no way I will know, I can make guesses. And I can have fun exploring, and I can see what resonates and what doesn't resonate and change my mind and learn new things. But at the end of the day, my mission is to just enjoy what I'm doing and to take other people with me if they want to come to allow them to join my experience, and have us all be experiencing that fun as sovereign, independent beings. So here we are, that's my meaning. That's my purpose.

Kat Guthrie:

I love that. I love that. You know, I It's so wonderful to hear you talk about your meaning the way that you find meaning in your life, because I honestly, I would like to say that I create meaning through joy. But that's 100% not true. Like, I think if there's any way that I'm trying to create meaning in my life, it's about the search for truth. And it is very annoying to know that I will never really know the truth, and that I already kind of know the truth anyway. You know, it's all just, it's all just an exploration of a thing that on some level, I already know. That is so fucking frustrating. But like, but it's interesting to me, you know? It's interesting to me to go through the process of how do I become a better person? How do I, how does a human being suffer so much, and then become good? And I think that's a, you know, that's a lifelong practice for for all of us. And that, that's the meaning that I choose at this time. But it would be great if I could do if I could switch to joy. Because, you know, joy is a lot more fun.

Sophie Bauer:

Well, and it's not to say that you won't ever decide that that's what your meaning is. And I think it's beautiful to acknowledge that we all have our own, like we like just like, we all have our own agendas, we all have our own individual desires, and ideas of how we want to create meaning in our life. And I think that that is beautiful in itself. And I could choose to have my meaning be, I'm going to take to see how hard I can make my path. That is gonna be my meaning. I'm just gonna see how hard I can make it, it's gonna be this really fun game to just see how much I can suffer. But I've probably already done that in other lives. And in this life, I'm choosing you know what, this time, my meaning is I just want to play and create happiness and good feelings and things that are pleasurable in my life, because, yes, again, the other just sounds devastating. And...

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, it is.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. So it's like...

Kat Guthrie:

And you know, as we were talking about this, I can feel that like that, that old meaning it's kind of falling away, like, Okay, you're right. I don't think I need to play that game anymore of like, how much must I suffer and come back from, you know?

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. But they're both valid, yeah, they're both valid.

Kat Guthrie:

They're both valid. They're both valid.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, absolutely. And I don't think there's, there's nothing I mean, because they're both valid. I mean, obviously, there's nothing wrong with wanting to continue to find truth or whatever that means to you. And I think you already have a really holistic outlook on that, in that you will never understand truth. But you can go through the game of being like, Okay, what's true for me now, in this moment? In this moment, it's true that my body feels more grounded than it's ever felt. It's true that I can sense my intuition from from within me. It's true that you know, the lights are flickering above me or whatever it is, you know, and that can be a fun game.

Kat Guthrie:

It's just like being on drugs.

Sophie Bauer:

It is. Yeah, basically, spirituality isn't real and reality is just a video game and this might just all be one crazy acid trip. So...

Kat Guthrie:

Yaaaaaaaaay.

Sophie Bauer:

So much fun and joy!

Kat Guthrie:

My god it's the best. You know, the one thing I will say though, is that one time I was just on pot and I drugs never worked for me because it's always just a fucking nightmare, overdose on like the tiniest amounts, but like I was at the zoo in Amsterdam once and, and had eaten a pot brownie and, and discovered the secret to motherhood. And then when I came down, I forgot it. So like, at least in like, in the spiritual practice, you learn a thing and then you don't forget it. Unlike with drugs, where you may rip a hole through time and space and you might never remember it again.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, or your memory gets wiped by aliens, and then you forget.

Kat Guthrie:

Well that, that can happen.

Sophie Bauer:

Which has happened to us both many times.

Kat Guthrie:

Such assholes.

Sophie Bauer:

Oh my god, like, I literally can't take myself seriously. And yet, this is so serious. And that's why I love the joke of our podcast title.

Kat Guthrie:

We're seriously spiritual.

Sophie Bauer:

We're seriously just so seriously spiritual.

Kat Guthrie:

So like, I think that, you know, we don't want to leave you dear listeners feeling like everything is hopeless, or at least, I don't think I want to. Because there are a few things that we do, not necessarily understand, but that we have experienced. And that seem to work. And those are like, these practices in energy and frequency, you know, and coming always coming back to the self. Like, all of these types of ways that you can lighten your energetic density through emotional healing, through thought, belief reprogramming, through breaking all these soul contracts and all this fucking nonsense, energy hygiene, all of that stuff. They're all different ways to pursue lightening lightening your energetic density and taking back your sovereignty. Um, yeah. So do those things. And then you'll be fine.

Sophie Bauer:

Everything will be fine, as long as you do everything you can to become sovereign.

Kat Guthrie:

Mm hmm. No big deal. It's just the fate of the world in your hands.

Sophie Bauer:

Well, and the thing is, too, is like not not to go bleak again, but like, we probably might never be completely sovereign, there's just no way to know. Because if the things that are keeping us from being sovereign are subconscious, we're fucked. We can't, we can't know. But the best thing that we can do is just try our best. And, you know, there is benefit in that, even if even if we go down that that path of like viewing it as a grim thing, we do experience the physical shifts. And that's what makes it a desirable route to take. Like, for example, with this arriving into this new vibrational reality, where it's like, okay, cool, like, addictions and shit, and like, whatever, on a minor scale, were falling away. And it's like, oh, I'm feeling more resourced from within myself. And my, my desires are shifting, and I'm actually receiving a lot more creativity. And you know, it's like, those are the things that, like, are the prizes out of pursuing sovereignty. And, you know, that's just a miniscule scale.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, seeing evidence in your life.

Sophie Bauer:

Evidence.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, evidence. Evidence.

Sophie Bauer:

Evidence of positive change.

Kat Guthrie:

Yes people, we do like science sometimes. But yeah, I mean, if stuff is changing in your life in a positive way, because of the things that you're doing, that's great. Keep it up. That's great. I don't like I don't think it's a good idea to join secret societies who worship, you know, all kinds of dark entities and stuff like that, because there are other ways of getting what you want. But you will literally sell your soul to the devil to make it happen. Really, you're going to sell your soul to an alien, not a devil, but you know, yeah, there are other ways to do it but I don't recommend it. And if if things are happening in your life in a positive way, due to loving action, that's really, that's the dream right there. Remembering to always focus on love and the fact that you know, getting what you want, all I can think of is "check yourself before you wreck yourself". Because make sure that the things that you want to actually have in your life are coming from a place of love.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, exactly. It's the intention behind the thing. And once again, it all comes back to self. You already have all of the energy and the resource that you need within yourself to be completely and totally content and loved and reach all of those high states of beingness and consciousness. That is already all within you. So as you pursue your sovereignty, everything else gets to be that that cherry on top. And yeah, I don't know, I think just don't take it so seriously. That's the best advice that I have. I need that advice for myself right now. Like don't take it so seriously, then this can, this this is literally just a hologram or a video game or who knows, could not be too, I don't know, I have no answers. I don't know anything. But the best, the best thing that I can decide for myself right now is just continue to create, and engage with and pursue joy, and play, and pleasure and bliss and all of the things. And yeah, keep keep raising my frequency because it feels good. And that's the path that I want to follow.

Kat Guthrie:

I love that Sophie. Hear hear.

Sophie Bauer:

Hear hear. Cheers!

Kat Guthrie:

Cheers, everybody, prost. Sorry, that's what they say in Germany, I'll shut up. I really don't have anything to add on top of that.

Sophie Bauer:

That's fair. That's fair. Thank you for your vulnerability today. I think, you know, you're always such a good example for me in just like, fully being super honest and vulnerable about what your experience is. And that is incredibly activating and valuable to me. So thank you for thank you for doing that again today. Love you.

Kat Guthrie:

Well thank you, thank you for saying that. And thank you for leading this discussion. Because I didn't know if I was going to have the strength or the wherewithal to um to even be able to have this conversation because I have been so angry and depressed and just reckoning with everything. But you know, like that. That's the spice of life right there. So thank you for creating the space to talk about this, the safety to talk about this on a wider scale with with all of our dear listeners here. And, you know, I think I think what we're really just hoping is that anybody who's listening to this, you can you you just feel like you have a little more of an idea of maybe how you could become more empowered, if you want to, you know, and maybe if that's not your feeling, maybe you feel the fear that's coming through in talking about all these topics. And that shows you where you can take your power back because if you're in fear you're giving away your power to something. So you know, whatever it is you might have potentially learned from this episode, it's all good. It's all good. And we honor you for it and we love you for listening and hearing us in our vulnerability and and being okay with it being okay with sharing us sharing with us in this way. So thank you everyone. And thank you, Sophie.

Sophie Bauer:

Yes, thank you all. And remember, love always prevails. That is a truth that I know for sure within me is that love always prevails. And if you do anything, do it through love, and your sovereignty will will eventually start to come back to you. Yeah. Woohoo!

Kat Guthrie:

Yay I love it.

Sophie Bauer:

We love you guys.

Kat Guthrie:

Thanks, everybody. We love you so much.

Sophie Bauer:

Ciao.