Seriously Spiritual

EP 9: How to open up your psychic gifts

January 03, 2022 Kat Guthrie & Sophie Bauer Season 1 Episode 9
Seriously Spiritual
EP 9: How to open up your psychic gifts
Show Notes Transcript

Today's topics:

  • There is no one true way to open up
  • What a stillness practice can entail
  • Why emotional clearing & belief reprogramming is so important

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Sophie Bauer:

Hi, everybody, welcome back to another episode on the Seriously Spiritual podcast. This is your host Sophie. And I'm accompanied with my beautiful friend Kat.

Kat Guthrie:

Hi everybody, I'm in my Julia Child voice today, major apologies to everyone and anyone.

Sophie Bauer:

Oh, we accept you in all forms, all lights.

Kat Guthrie:

So much oh my goodness.

Sophie Bauer:

Of course, darling. Of course. Well today is a very special day. And I have been getting many requests that we do an episode on how to open up your psychic gifts. And today is going to be just that. So we're gonna riff on all the things that have helped us develop our psychic abilities and how you can do the same and give you some tactical tools to move forward. So y'all can just start up leveling in the best ways.

Kat Guthrie:

Whoo, I love it. Um, first thing it is important to lay down is that there is no one true way. Like, think we've said this before, but we will say it again over and over again. There is no one true way to do this, everybody is going to have their own path to glory. And it I don't know what has gotten into me today. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like how you start, it doesn't matter what ability you start with. We usually have an idea of like, what might be stronger. Like for me, because I was a musician before this, it made sense to me that my ears would be stronger than anything else. And because I'd spent so much time in emotional healing that my body might be stronger, my felt sense. Sophie, what

Sophie Bauer:

Mm hmm. Yeah, I'll definitely I can relate to that. about you? But for me, it's kind of the opposite way around. I knew that I was already very connected with my visual sense of things and my imagination and with my physical body just from the way that I grew up, and I cultivated my life being a physical artist. So it just naturally came to me in that way. Um, and I feel like everybody kind of has a general sense of like, which, which expression of psychic gift that is going to be their strongest one, even if they're like, Oh, I'm totally like, not turned on at all. I don't know how to connect. You do. You know.

Kat Guthrie:

You absolutely know,

Sophie Bauer:

You do, you know. So yeah, I would say first start there. Start with what feels the strongest. And we all have the ability to have all of them. And we've talked about what each of them are very intricately in other episodes. So go check that out if you want to learn more, but um, we can have all of them.

Kat Guthrie:

I think it's episode two, y'all, How our gifts manifested.

Sophie Bauer:

Y'all, go get it.

Kat Guthrie:

Get it. And speaking of previous episodes, another one that was it should be super helpful to listen to before opening up any of your psychic gifts is the one that we did on energy hygiene, because energy hygiene is just it is the foundation for any of this stuff. Because if you have an energy field which is, I mean, we're all going to have energy fields, especially when we're opening up that are ripe with all kinds of influences and emotional crap and crappy belief systems and everything like that. So starting with your energy hygiene and making sure that your field is super, super, super, super, super clear is is the foundation to all of this. So go back and listen that listen to that episode too.

Sophie Bauer:

Word. Thank you for that. Yep. Listen, listen to the wisdom of Kat.

Kat Guthrie:

Lord. Oy.

Sophie Bauer:

All right, I guess let's just like yeah, let's just hop right in. So the first thing that I want to say in terms of developing your psychic gifts is that your self trust is aside, from energy hygiene, is the foundation and the most important part in developing any of your psychic abilities. And it needs to continue to grow in that threshold of self trust as it develops more and more. Because the amount and the quality of information that you receive is going to change and shift. And you need to always have like a really sturdy, steadfast foundation of self trust. Would you agree with that Kat?

Kat Guthrie:

100% Totally and completely. And like self trust obviously isn't a thing that you you gather overnight, right? Because the more you start to do this work this work, the more you're going to like really understand what things you can trust and what things you can't, yourself and other things included and like it's important to really like, understand that if something comes into your field, and then it turns out to be wrong later, or you make a decision based on psychic information, and it turns out to have been a shitty decision, it's fine. Like, it's completely fine. We all of us make shitty decisions all the time based on the best information that we have, whether that is psychic or otherwise. And, and so the more that you do this, the more that you do the work not just to open up your gifts, but to to do all of the healing things and the belief things that we're going to talk about, the more that you are doing the work, the more the information that's going to come to you is going to be true. So whether or not it's true, doesn't matter nearly as much as whether or not you allow yourself to trust that the things that are coming to you are important, regardless of whether they're true, because if they're coming into your field, they're there for a reason. There's something for you to learn.

Sophie Bauer:

Yes, yes. Oh, that's so important. Yeah. And I feel like that was kind of the biggest hidden lesson in really actively cultivating my psychic abilities, because it was like, it wasn't really about the thing, about the gift being turned on fully. It was really about learning to trust myself, and be okay with the information changing and me changing my mind later. And, you know, developing this, this dance between what it was that I was choosing to trust or not, because they all came back to me. So yeah, just, it's the hidden lesson. And I guess that's why I wanted to start with that, because it's not a it's not about the gifts, it's really about developing that self trust. And over time, as you do the work, what we're going to share of what you can do to develop these gifts, it will grow it will grow even more, and your filters of universal truth will get more clear.

Kat Guthrie:

Yep. You know, one time I was like, I was getting so angry at my guides, like, I wasn't getting clear information from them, or like, uh, you know, I had given the information and it turned out the information was false. And I was like, god dammit, what is wrong with you? And they were like, Kathryn, we're not supposed to be fortune tellers. And I was like, Oh. Uhhhhh. I think that's what we're led to believe is that actually you should your psychic gifts should be like you predicting the future and being a fortune teller. That's not what it's for.

Sophie Bauer:

Wouldn't that be nice.

Kat Guthrie:

I don't predict the future, people.

Sophie Bauer:

Oh, you know what I will, I will play devil's advocate on that. Because you can and we can, and we have definitely predicted things very accurately. So it's possible. I just don't think it's about hanging your hat on that. Because then that's when you're going to run into trouble.

Kat Guthrie:

Exactly. Don't get attached, don't get attached to literally anything.

Sophie Bauer:

Yes. Non attachment. We like to practice that here.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah we do. So yeah things like, what Sophie's really bringing up here is the, this this discernment, right? Of like, your, everything comes into your field, and you're deciding what to trust and what not to trust. And like, the real basis for discernment, like the, the, the binary, if you will, in discernment is whether something is fear, or whether it's love, and, and when, like when I'll receive information, and I'm like, super in fear about it. I'll like, I'll be talking to my highest self and being, Okay, so like, oh my god, is this thing gonna happen? And it'll be like, yes, it's going to happen. And I'll be like, Are there any entities in my field telling me that? And they're like, no, there are no entities. Okay, but it's still gonna happen? And it's like, yes. And I'm like, okay, am I am I just too much in fear about this to receive a correct answer? And they're like, Yeah, so. I even try, and they were like, no, but Oh, but you know, it used to be that I could say like, okay, without fear, what is the information? And they would actually tell me, like, you know, but now, now my highest self won't let me do it. It's like, no, just clear the fear dammit. Just clear the fear. So anytime you come up in fear in this practice, always good to just release it. Let it go.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, well, and there's we're gonna tell you like some really tactical practical ways to do that, because I know how frustrating it can be to hear, Just release all your stress and your fear. And it's like, um bitch like, get out of here, it's not that easy. So don't worry, we're not we're not going to be those chicks. We're actually going to help you.

Kat Guthrie:

Everything's just great! No, we don't do that shit. Um, yeah. So Sophie, how like, how do you like to teach your students how to start practicing opening up their gifts?

Sophie Bauer:

Yes, I would love to share. So I'm going to give you all the down low. This is this is some exclusive information that you get inside of Online Entrepreneur Mastery. I say that's slightly facetiously, but like it's true. So this is kind of a culmination of what really allowed me to develop my psychic abilities. And then when I teach my students as well, and the first thing that becomes kind of a staple is implementing some kind of a stillness practice. And before you turn your nose up at this, this is really just about cultivating a practice around listening and cultivating self awareness. And it's easier to listen and to hear and see things and feel things the more that you're able to acknowledge and witness the subtle cues that are coming from your body or your mind or your intuition, when you're able to access the theta brainwave state. And what that is, is, it's basically when the waves of your brain activity are literally just slowed down. And we can achieve this state typically through meditation and accessing the flow state, if some of you are familiar with that if you're an artist, or you just know what it feels like to really get in the flow in the zone, and you're just like, channeling all of your energy through and it just works. Um, so that's what that theta brainwave state and is. And what I'll add to this is that it doesn't have to be meditation. And that was something that was super frustrating to me in the beginning, because I was like, Oh, my God, I literally cannot sit still more than 20 minutes at a time, like, it's just not possible for me, it's super uncomfortable, I can't think, my thoughts are racing. So I just want to like blanket statement that this doesn't have to look like a meditation. Um, it's really about accessing that slower brainwave state, and allowing the body to relax, so that you can listen and receive the wisdom that is just naturally flowing through you. Um, and what I'll say what that is like it doesn't it doesn't have to be a long practice. Something that I really loved to do in the beginning is after I would do like a movement, or a workout, movement practice or workout, I would literally just like, lay on the ground, go be alone, and just like, allow myself to really sink into my body, and feel what that slower brainwave state felt like and just listen. And that was when, like, my most creative peaks would happen, like, I would receive all kinds of information, my body would become clearer, like, I could literally, like start to feel energy shifting, like, it was just, it was the outlet for me that worked. That helped me tune in and tap into that frequency and that state of being so that I could start to identify my psychic abilities. That yeah, so that, yes, that's my first thing.

Kat Guthrie:

That's great. Well, and you know, like, I've, I've also had clients and friends too like, be like, I just don't have time to like, lie down or be in meditation or whatever. If you're like a busy person with a thriving family, like, you could be washing the dishes and you can get into a meditative state, you know, there are lots of opportunities you could be if you have five minutes, when you're picking your kids up from school, you can get into a flow state, like there are so many opportunities throughout our day that we can set aside two minutes even to allow yourself to get into a certain space. And so you know, I think there's all of this like, built up crap around the idea that you have to set aside time and just, This is your practice. But like, that is a luxury that a lot that a lot of people don't have and your psychic abilities are meant to be with you always you know, like when I first started opening up my meditations were like super active like I didn't just like lie there and be like I have no brain I have no brain brain shut up. You know, like, I was like, Okay, what are we going to do? Let's look around what do we want to do today? What do I want to learn what I want to Oh my brain is doing this thing Okay, let's try make a do this thing. You know like I You don't always have to like shut shut it down. Basically you know you can allow your brain to like be a partner with you. And and I think they're also like you can receive your meta your psychic abilities in states other than the theta brainwave state. There are like, I think theta is maybe the deepest, but there are so many other wave patterns before then that are also useful for intuition. So, you know, just because if it takes you like 20 minutes to get into theta, it doesn't mean that you you can't use two minutes to get into, I don't know, delta or some shit, that you can also start practicing in that place, too. So don't you know, don't don't limit yourself to the times and places when you feel like you have access to your intuition, you always have access to it, whether or not you have a deep connection with being able to understand that your intuition is what you're accessing is a different story. But, you know, don't don't feel like you just have to be a monk and that's the only way you're gonna figure it out.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's super important. And, you know, the only reason that I recommend or that I teach my students how to access their theta brainwave state right away, is because it does just accelerate the process. It's just a lot more clear to discern, Oh, okay. This is what my intuition feels like, rather than if you're not so deep in there, it can be a little bit more challenging to develop that discernment and that self awareness. But again, it all literally just comes down to self awareness and being able to discern, what is it? What's running through your mind? What's running through your body? What is what is the thought, and what's an intuition. And it's all the same kind of, but like, it's, and it's all individual, I think that's what I'm trying to get down to, is that it's really about discerning the different sensations of what it feels like to have intuition versus what's, like a belief or a program or a story, you know, something like that. Does that resonate with you?

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, 100%, like, the, you know, you're bringing up such a good point about like, this discerning of really understanding what is your intuition, and what is everything else. And there's a lot of everything else, like there's, the more we get into the, the sooner the more you know, the more you start practicing spirituality more, the more you realize that there is just a ton of stuff everywhere. And so one of the, one of the the best points here is to talk about like, when you're tapping into your intuition, your intuition, all of the information that you receive, however you're going to be receiving it is going to be affected by the trauma that you've been through by beliefs that you beliefs you were brought up in, or that were given to you by society, or education or religion, whatever it is. It's gonna be affected by 1,000,001 things. And so two of the best things you can do to open up your psychic gifts is to heal your emotional trauma and remove your belief systems.

Sophie Bauer:

Yes, Yep, absolutely. Those are the two most important things.

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, yeah. Cuz it really like, it really like makes such a difference in terms of like, not only like the speed at which you're able to receive psychic information, right, because like psychic information, the way that I understand it, at least gets downloaded physically into your body and gets grounded into the earth and then bounces back up into your body where you actually receive it as information. So if your body is really dense as if you have a lot of trauma stuck inside your body, emotional trauma gets stuck in your inside your body as a physical energy. And so if you are super traumatized, you have a lot of density in the body, it is much harder for for psychic energy to move through your body reach the Earth bounce back up into your body and be received by you, because there's all this other shit that it has to get through first before it gets there. And then with beliefs, the exact same thing, it's like emotions are stored in the body and beliefs are stored in the brain. So in order for your brain to receive and parse the information in a way that you can understand, it has to blow by all of these belief systems on the way so removing your beliefs also lightens the

Sophie Bauer:

Right, right. Yeah. And I think that it's, uh, density of your brain. in terms of beliefs. Well, I kind of want to go deeper on both of these. But with the beliefs is, we were kind of talking about this a little bit before pressing record in that, is it necessary to have beliefs? Like, what does it really mean to have beliefs? And what if, what if you don't have any beliefs? Is that really the true form of being able to receive only universal truth if that does exist? And I think we have determined like, yes, if that is the goal, if you're trying to receive only universal truth, then ideally, you would be maintaining zero beliefs. None. You would just be floating in a state of nonbelief and just non attachment to any, any outcome in reality, and you would just be there. Yeah. Universal Truth.

Kat Guthrie:

Exactly. It's very Buddhist, I think, that that state of of non attachment, right. And you know, there's so much like, there are a lot of like different systems out there or whatever that are about like belief reprogramming, like, you have a crappy belief, replace it with a better belief. And it's like, why would you do that, because when you reach a certain point where beliefs really aren't necessary anymore, you all of a sudden realize that like, you know, it's just one belief system built on top of another, you know, when I was deprogramming all of my beliefs, like, I, you know, at first, when I first started, I was doing like, I would take like a little belief, and I would remove that. And then I poke and prod at it and be like, Oh, the little belief isn't there. But there are still other shittier beliefs underneath. So I would have to like, remove them one by one. But then, when I got to the point where it's able to remove like entire things, I was like, Okay, let's wipe out all of my democratic beliefs. And I removed them all. And for like, maybe two weeks afterwards, I was like, wow, I got some really Republican beliefs under here. Are these is this universal truth? Or are these beliefs? And then I was like, no, no, no, no. Okay. So underlying my democratic beliefs, I had this other set of Republican beliefs that like I had never actually adopted, but in order to hold the democratic ones, I had to hold the Republican ones at the same time. So then I just said, Okay, remove all of my political beliefs. And then the field was a lot, I was able to kind of tap into a lot more information after that, that I would never have been able to hold or like, even comprehend before that.

Sophie Bauer:

Mm hmm. Yeah. And what's interesting that's coming through for me right now with that is that when you do wipe out, um almost like these pillars of belief systems, not only does it change the information that you receive, but it also drastically changes the way that you lead your life. So the outcome of all of your, your decisions and the direction in which you go, the things that you pursue are going to be completely different. Have you kept, had err, Yeah, had you kept the the original pillars of those, for example, the what Kat just said with her political belief systems, had she been living her life, upholding both of those pillars, she would probably not be where she is today, recording this podcast with me. So it's just, it's just an interesting thing to be aware of, and observe. And I think it's kind of exciting to look forward to. Because when you when you do, you know, remove all these pillars, and it's just this vast field of openness, anything is possible, you're not bound by the beliefs that are holding you back from doing the things that your soul is calling you to do. You know.

Kat Guthrie:

Absolutely. So incredibly well said. Sophie, hear hear.

Sophie Bauer:

Hear, hear, cheers.

Kat Guthrie:

Cheers. Cheers everyone. My Julia Child voice is back. Sophie, we already talked about belief removal. Would you like to talk about emotional healing?

Sophie Bauer:

I would love to talk about emotional healing darling. Let's do it. So for me it I would say okay, so both go really hand in hand for me in terms of belief removal and emotional healing in developing my psychic gifts. But for me, emotional healing was probably the most impactful and pivotable pivotal tool that I ever used. Not only because it because my gifts were so body centered at first in, in that I would sense my intuition in my body like I would viscerally feel it in my body. And I would sense energy, and I was very, I still have obviously connected to my imagination to my visual senses of psychic gifts. So it complimented those abilities I think really, really well. Um, and I think actually now that I'm clarifying this, it's it's interesting because I think that belief removal was maybe one of the more pronounced things that you did to develop your clairaudience. Would you agree with that? Because it's more like heady?

Kat Guthrie:

Yes, I think...

Sophie Bauer:

Or not so much?

Kat Guthrie:

I think I mean, in Well, I mean, clairaudience, the great thing about that is that you're receiving actual words so like, you know, with with visuals, right? It's easy, easily interpreted, and to be fair, when you receive clairaudience it is also an interpretation, your brain is interpreting the energy that is being received and you are translating it into words. But I think in general, having clairaudience for me and and also combined with the fact that I am, generally speaking an intellectual person, despite my best efforts to be more body based means that I often receive my information more, more brain based more intellectually, and I need to be more body based. So my kind of whole spiritual journey started happening when I started going through my emotional clearing, which, you know, I had been in and out of therapy since I was like 11. But the only therapy that ever actually did anything to me did anything for me was this Core Energetics that I've mentioned before, which is a somatic body based therapy. And it was really involving the body in the healing process, as well as developing rapport with my body because the body has its own intelligence, that really changed began to change the game for me, in terms of really kind of fleshing out my psychic abilities, not making it quite so heady or intellectual, and really making it like a full form kind of experience.

Sophie Bauer:

I love that. Cool. Okay, so then maybe it's safe to say that really the the emotional healing when paired with a somatic experience, is possibly the most profound way that you can activate your psychic abilities. Would you say that that's true?

Kat Guthrie:

Yeah, I kind of think that emotional healing really is the basis the foundation for like, everything, you know, but I think that maybe for, for more for certain people, belief reprogramming, or, sorry, belief deprogramming is going to be more powerful for them. I think it depends on how you move through the world. You know, you and I are both so emotional, that like, for, for us, healing the emotions was really such a big deal. But there gonna be a lot of people moving through this world who are also highly intellectual. Where like, maybe they haven't experienced a ton of trauma, but they have, you know, they have like a million grad degrees and things like that. And so they're so in their heads, that moving the belief systems that they receive through all of their education is actually going to be more transformative. I think it really depends.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, yeah, that's a really good way to put it. Again, coming back to there's no one way and it is all individual. But yeah, just to sum up, emotional healing was the most important thing that I ever did to open up psychically. And really just in literally every aspect of my life, like my business, transformed my relationships changed my personal life, everything about everything about my life changed the moment, I started to engage, and take seriously my emotional healing. So yeah, that's what that's what we recommend. We use engage with and heal your emotions, there are a million ways to do it. Yeah, but we both teach that so if you want if you want a little, some friendship,

Kat Guthrie:

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Sophie Bauer:

I know hit us up, I guess.

Kat Guthrie:

You'll there are just a few other like tips or pointers or whatever that we I think we want to talk about, but like, you, we've talked about the fact that like, doesn't need to be like an hour of meditation, you also don't need to be lying down. Like, you can do a walking meditation, or a standing meditation or running a meditation or whatever. But it is helpful to be alone. And this is because you might be doing the work of opening up your psychic gifts, but all these other people around you might not be doing the same thing. And even if they are, it is often better to do it without their shit around you. Because like, you know, you're gonna have your own entities, you're gonna have your own beliefs and your own emotions and everything affecting your energy field. But when you pull somebody else's beliefs and emotions and trauma and energy field entities and all that shit into your field, then all of a sudden you don't know what is you you don't know what is them and you don't know what is coming from you and what is coming from them and every fucking other thing around you. So just finding a quiet space away from people where you can be in your own energy field makes a big difference.

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah. 100% 100%.

Kat Guthrie:

Um, let's see, Oh, one other thing I want to say: no binaural beats. I know that like, this is something that I've experimented with and it's like super people are super into this concept. I have been told by my intuition that binaural beats is equivalent to mind control. So just don't, don't use it to put yourself in a certain brainwave state don't google or just look on YouTube for binaural beats for theta brainwave state none of that shit. Okay, there's, it is very easy. What I'm getting is that it's very easy for those tracks to be like subverted basically like the person creating things creating thinks they're just like making some binaural beats, but what they don't realize is that like, the particular brainwave state, they're actually influencing you into is a place where you can be more easily mind controlled or wherever, but by dark forces, so I know that sounds super scary, but just like, just be smart kids just be smart. Don't, don't mess with brainwave states you don't really understand, just do what is like natural to your body. You know?

Sophie Bauer:

Yeah, yeah. And what I'll say to that is, you don't need any force outside of you to help you, not only achieve the brainwave states that you are desiring, but also to activate your psychic gifts, nobody outside of you can do that for you, nor should they, it's a personal journey. And if anybody, whether they are claiming themselves to be a psychic activator, or a healer, or whatever it is, and they're telling you that they need to do something to you, whether it's an activation or some kind of fucking seance. It's bullshit. So, no, you are fully capable of developing these yourself. And it should be done in a personal journey. And even if it's not going at the speed at which you're you're desiring, there are important lessons for you to learn along that path. So, I encourage a lot of detachment and curiosity in this process, because you really never know what could be unveiled to you during this process. And it's, it's a sacred container and development. So I would encourage you to treat it so. It doesn't, it doesn't need to be tomorrow, that they're all turned on and activated. I don't even have all of mine turned on and activated and ready to go. And yet, I'm still incredibly connected to what I have turned on and enjoying the process of activating even more. So no matter where you are in your journey, it's perfect. Trust it trust yourself again, the self trust and everything will unfold if you just put in a little bit of patience and flexibility and trust.

Kat Guthrie:

Preach. Yes 100% 1000 1,000,000%.

Sophie Bauer:

All the percentages.

Kat Guthrie:

All of the percentages that are one followed by many zeros. I assign them all to you in that statement. That was perfect. Yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself. That's it. That's how you do it.

Sophie Bauer:

That's it folks. That's how you open up. Dun dun dun dun dun dun, hey. Yeah. And and if you haven't listened to energy hygiene, please, please, please do yourself a favor and go listen to that. If you are dabbling and opening up your psychic abilities, it will be incredibly useful for you. So yeah, good job. We're proud of you. We'll see you in the next episode.

Kat Guthrie:

See you on the next episode, everybody. Love you! Byeeeee.

Sophie Bauer:

Love you.